Common Systems Group (CSG)

 

March 22, 2005

Meeting Summary

 

 

CSG Attendees: Jim Davis, Steve Duim, Jason Frand, Bill Jepson , Max Kopelevich, Robert Konishi, Michelle Lew, Kathleen O’Kane, Sean Pine (for Greg Kitch), Tom Phelan, Nick Reddingius, Terry Ryan, Ruth Sabean, Mike Schilling, Marsha Smith, Eric Splaver, Pam Taylor,  Kent Wada, Don Worth

 

Guests: John DeGolyer (OIT), Mike Lee (PDP Participant), Stacey Rosborough (PDP Participant), Mike Van Norman (CTS)

 

 

Agenda

 

1) Announcements

 

a.       UCCSC conference in San Francisco, August 7-9, 2005.

 

b.      Jeff Mirich from Disney will be coming to campus to talk about a similar effort at Disney to reposition IT. He will be on campus Thursday April 7th and is expected to give a presentation. CSG and CCC members are welcome to attend

 

2) Reports

 

a.      Status of Network Review

 

Marsha Smith, Director of ATS, will be assuming a lead role in the IT Repositioning Initiative. She gave a report to the Group on the External Network Review – from logistical to programming planning. She also commented on what was to happen “after the review” which included forming a 7-10 member technical leadership group to respond to the External Network recommendations and integrate within an overall UCLA strategy. Consolidated information about the Initiative as well as specific planning documents for the External review can be found at: http://www.oit.ucla.edu/RepositioningIT/

 

3) UCLA Policy 411 - Domain Names

 

Kent Wada presented a revision of UCLA Policy 411 that reflects a simplified set of criteria for requesting internal UCLA Domain Names. The acronym requirement has become a guideline. The intent of the overall policy assumes that most high level domain names requested (of the type: www.<domain name>.ucla.edu), will be approved. Single events or conferences will not be given high level domain names and should be in the form www.<domain name>.ucla.edu/<event name>.

 

It was noted that the policy document had gone through several revisions, some substantive, without going back through the ITPB for approval. Kent Wada concurred, but said the intentions were to clarify, not to change policy. Jim Davis reiterated that policy revisions must go through the ITPB before being approved and represented as policy.

 

The CSG agreed in principle with the new policy but asked that the guidelines for the use of acronyms be removed. External Affairs representative Paul Craft was going to go back to Michael Stone and ensure that this could be taken out. Later it was not agreed to be taken out. An email vote was later taken with the following results:

 

Endorse

7

 

Not Endorse

2

1) until we have a better explanation form External Affairs regarding this position.

 

 

 

2) I believe the policy should be edited to strike the acronym guideline, and I also feel the request form should have the "clear institutional reason" checkbox modified so that it is not a yes/no question as was discussed in the meeting.

 

Endorse with caveats

4

1)       I vote “yes” as long as a more comprehensive appeals process is defined.  The current draft addresses appeals related to names already in use.  It does not address appeals regarding the rejection of a suggested name by University Communications for other reasons.

 

 

 

2)       The acronym statement has been the cause of almost everybody's problems. I vote yes, on the condition that the statement is removed.

 

 

 

3) Yes, if the guidelines in Attachment B are revised to state:

In general, it is best to create names that:

  • Will remain meaningful over time
  • Do not use acronyms, unless the acronym is the actual name most commonly used
  • Do not use ambiguous words, terms or combinations of the same.

 I believe the word “avoid” is most at issue here since these are guidelines and not requirements.

 

 

 

4) I vote "yes" with the condition that the acronyms guideline remain a guideline only, and will never be used as the sole reason to deny a request for a domain name. I do not agree with External Affairs that this guideline is even the preferred practice since URLs should be short and easy to type/remember first and foremost. I intend to ignore it.

Abstain

0

 

Did Not Vote

4

 

 

Kent Wada is now working to resolve the acronym issue before taking the issue to the ITPB.

 

4)      Security Issues

 

a.            UCLA Policy 401 - Minimum Security Standards

 

This version (1) reflects the input received from the February CSG meeting and (2) puts the text into standard UCLA administrative policies format. Changes based on input received from CSG have been highlighted. Proposed implementation deadline now coincides with the start of Fall Quarter.

 

 

Meeting Schedule for Remainder of 2005:

 

Tuesday

April 26

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

May 24

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

June 28

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

July 26

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

August 23

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

September 27

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

October 25

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

November 22

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy

Tuesday

December 20

2:00 – 4:00 p.m.

2121 Murphy